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Nonreversible vs. reversible chains

Markov chain mixing times · Historical workshop question

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Problem statement

Is it always true that t\mboxmixP≲t~\mboxmixt_{\mbox{mix}}^P\lesssim \tilde t_{\mbox{mix}}? Is the same also true of the cover time?

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Workshop introduction

In general, we will use the following notation in the problem list. We consider aperiodic irreducible Markov chains on a state space, Ω\Omega with unique invariant (stationary) distribution π\pi. In the discrete time setting we allow the matrix (P)x,y∈Ω(P)_{x,y\in\Omega} with Pxy=P(x,y)P_{xy}=P(x,y) to denote the transition matrix of the Markov chain.

A chain is reversible if π(x)P(x,y)=π(y)P(y,x)\pi(x)P(x,y)=\pi(y)P(y,x) for all x,y∈Ωx,y\in\Omega. Q(x,y)=π(x)P(x,y)Q(x,y)=\pi(x)P(x,y) is the edge measure on (x,y)(x,y). We denote by t\mboxmixt_{\mbox{mix}} the total variation mixing time defined as

t\mboxmix(ϵ)=inf⁡{t:sup⁡ω0∈Ω∥Pt(ω0,⋅)−π(⋅)∥TV≤ϵ} ,t_{\mbox{mix}}(\epsilon)=\inf\{t:\sup_{\omega_0\in\Omega}\|P^t(\omega_0,\cdot)-\pi(\cdot)\|_{TV}\leq \epsilon\}\,,

and set t\mboxmix=t\mboxmix(ϵ)t_{\mbox{mix}}=t_{\mbox{mix}}(\epsilon), where the total variation distance

∥μ−ν∥TV=12∥μ−ν∥ℓ1 .\|\mu-\nu\|_{TV}=\tfrac 12 \|\mu-\nu\|_{\ell^1}\,.

Section context

For a nonreversible chain with transition matrix P(x,y)P(x,y), define its time-reversal by P^(x,y)=(π(x))−1π(y)P(y,x)\hat P(x,y)=(\pi(x))^{-1}\pi(y)P(y,x). Then the symmetrization of the chain is given by the Markov chain with transition matrix 12(P+P^)\frac 12 (P+\hat P).

Question context

Let PP be the transition matrix of a general nonreversible chain with, say, bounded degree vertices and transition probabilities uniformly bounded from below. Denote its mixing time by t\mboxmixPt_{\mbox{mix}}^P and let t~\mboxmix\tilde t_{\mbox{mix}} be the mixing time of its symmetrization.

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Counterexample by Jonathan Hermon and Hubert Lacoin : consider a dd-regular tree TT of depth nn. For each non-leaf vertex xx, if yy denotes the right-most child of xx, then the edge {x,y}\{x,y\} is replaced by a "diamond", i.e. a lozenge formed by two consecutive up-going edges from xx to yy and two consecutive down-going edges from yy to xx. Each directed edge has weight 22, so that the symmetrization is simply obtained by replacing directed edges by non-directed edges. This device allows to separate the harmonic measures of the two walks at the boundary of TT: for dd large enough, the directed walk has about twice more chance to escape through right-most edges. Now, on each leaf of TT corresponding to a right-most child, add a path of length nn. To ensure that the worst starting point of the non-directed walk is still at the root, repeat this graph on nn levels. At the leaves of the resulting graph, attach an expander graph, so that the mixing time is given by the hitting time of the expander, which is larger for the directed walk.

References
  1. [1]Markov chain mixing times link

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