Erdős #1207 · geometry / distances
Let be such that in any set of points in there exist at least many points which do not contain an isosceles triangle. Estimate - in particular, is it true that
P_2(n)<n^{…Problem statement
Let be such that in any set of points in there exist at least many points which do not contain an isosceles triangle. Estimate - in particular, is it true that
for some constant ?
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Background
Erdős [Er80] attributes this problem to Riddell, and states it is not hard to prove that where as . Indeed, one can take any subset of points with all distinct distances, whence
with defined as in [1208].
Erdős suggested that perhaps the worst set of points is the set of lattice points in a sphere of suitable radius.
The case is equivalent to finding sets with no three-term arithmetic progressions, and is the case of [201].
The bound of Pach and Tardos [PaTa02] on the maximum number of isosceles triangles in a point set, together with a random deletion argument, shows that . In Section 5.3 of [BMP05] they claim that the regular polygon shows that but give no details. This seems to be incorrect, since an isosceles triangle from the vertices of a regular polygon correspond to three points whose angles form an arithmetic progression. This shows that , where is the maximum size of a subset of without a non-trivial three-term arithmetic progression (see [140]).
A better construction, which proves that for some absolute constant , was found by Lee, Pohoata, and Zhu (assisted by ChatGPT) [LPZ26]. (This construction is similar to that used for the unit distance problem [90]).
Although this answers the main question of Erdős, I leave this open as a general challenge to estimate more generally.
See [1208] (and also [657]) for a variant in which we ask for all sets of three points to have distinct distances.
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