OpenFrontiers
← Back to the index
OP-9111OpenGraph theory

Erdős #643 · graph theory / hypergraphs

Let f(n;t)f(n;t) be minimal such that if a tt-uniform hypergraph on nn vertices contains at least f(n;t)f(n;t) edges then there must be four edges A,B,C,DA,B,C,D such that

A∪B=C∪DA\cup B= C\cup D

and

A∩B=C∩D=∅.…A\cap B=C\cap D=\emptyset.…

Inferred from the community field; finer classification has not been reviewed.

Source reports OPENAs of 2026-09-08Source & evidence ↓

Problem statement

Let f(n;t)f(n;t) be minimal such that if a tt-uniform hypergraph on nn vertices contains at least f(n;t)f(n;t) edges then there must be four edges A,B,C,DA,B,C,D such that

A∪B=C∪DA\cup B= C\cup D

and

A∩B=C∩D=∅.A\cap B=C\cap D=\emptyset.

Estimate f(n;t)f(n;t) - in particular, is it true that for t≥3t\geq 3

f(n;t)=(1+o(1))(nt−1)?f(n;t)=(1+o(1))\binom{n}{t-1}?

Lean 4

Not yet attached

No Lean statement or proof is attached yet. Have a formalization? Share its source to add it to this problem.

Background

For t=2t=2 this is asking for the maximal number of edges on a graph which contains no C4C_4, and so f(n;2)=(1/2+o(1))n3/2f(n;2)=(1/2+o(1))n^{3/2}.

Füredi [Fu84] proved that f(n;3)≪n2f(n;3) \ll n^2 and f(n;3)>(n2)f(n;3) > \binom{n}{2} for infinitely many nn. Pikhurko and Verstraëte [PiVe09] have proved f(n;3)≤139(n2)f(n;3)\leq \frac{13}{9}\binom{n}{2} for all nn.

More generally, Füredi [Fu84] proved that

(n−1t−1)+⌊n−1t⌋≤f(n;t)<72(nt−1),\binom{n-1}{t-1}+\left\lfloor\frac{n-1}{t}\right\rfloor\leq f(n;t) < \frac{7}{2}\binom{n}{t-1},

and conjectured the lower bound is sharp for t≥4t\geq 4. Pikhurko and Verstraëte [PiVe09] have proved that

1≤lim sup⁡n→∞f(n;t)(nt−1)≤min⁡(74,1+2t)1 \leq \limsup_{n\to \infty} \frac{f(n;t)}{\binom{n}{t-1}}\leq \min\left(\frac{7}{4},1+\frac{2}{\sqrt{t}}\right)

for all t≥3t\geq 3.

Füredi [Fu84] proved that f(n;3)/(n2)f(n;3)/\binom{n}{2} converges as n→∞n\to \infty, but the existence of the limit for t≥4t\geq 4 is unknown.

Progress & source assessment

The source labels this entry OPEN in the 2026-09-08 snapshot. Editorial progress notes are reproduced as source commentary, not independently verified results. Prize amounts and Lean badges at the source are not local awards or verification.

References
  1. [1]Thomas Bloom (ed.), Erdős Problems #643 link

Recorded progress

Add yours →

Nothing recorded yet. A pointer to a paper the entry is missing counts.

Machine attempts

0 recorded

Attempts run against the statement below and are recorded in full, including the failures. The point is to stop the next model — and the next person — from re-walking a road that is already known to end. Each attempt costs 25 credits.

No machine attempts recorded.

Sign in to run an attempt. New accounts start with enough credits for ten.

Discussion

0 notes

Notes are for clarifying the statement, flagging a missing reference, or recording why an approach fails. Claimed solutions belong in a submission, where they can be reviewed.

No notes yet.

Sign in to add a note.