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Babai–Seress Conjectures on the Diameter of Finite Groups

Babai–Seress Conjectures on the Diameter of Finite Groups

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babai_seress_conjecture_alternating

Babai–Seress Conjecture (Conjecture 1.5): There exists an absolute constant CC such that the diameter of the alternating group AnA_n satisfies

diam⁡(An)≤nC.\operatorname{diam}(A_n) \leq n^C.

Reference: L. Babai and Á. Seress, On the diameter of permutation groups, European Journal of Combinatorics 13 (1992), Conjecture 1.5

babai_seress_conjecture

Babai–Seress Conjecture (Conjecture 1.7): There exists an absolute constant CC such that every finite simple non-abelian group GG satisfies

diam⁡(G)≤(log⁡∣G∣)C.\operatorname{diam}(G) \leq (\log |G|)^C.

Reference: L. Babai and Á. Seress, On the diameter of permutation groups, European Journal of Combinatorics 13 (1992), Conjecture 1.7

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import FormalConjecturesUtil

/-!
# Babai–Seress Conjectures on the Diameter of Finite Groups

*References:*
- [Wikipedia, *Diameter (group theory)*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diameter_(group_theory))
- [H. A. Helfgott and Á. Seress, *On the diameter of permutation groups*](https://arxiv.org/abs/1109.3550)
- [L. Babai and Á. Seress, *On the diameter of permutation groups*,
  European Journal of Combinatorics 13 (1992), 231–243](https://doi.org/10.1016/S0195-6698(05)80029-0)

This file contains two conjectures from the Babai–Seress paper:

- **Conjecture 1.5**: $\operatorname{diam}(A_n) < n^C$ for some absolute constant $C$,
  where $A_n$ is the alternating group on $n$ elements.

- **Conjecture 1.7**: $\operatorname{diam}(G) < (\log |G|)^C$ for some absolute constant $C$,
  where $G$ ranges over all non-abelian finite simple groups.

Conjecture 1.7 generalises Conjecture 1.5, since for $G = A_n$ we have
$\log |A_n| \approx n \log n$, so a polylogarithmic bound in $|G|$ implies a polynomial
bound in $n$.
-/

namespace BabaiSeressConjectures

/-- The (undirected) Cayley graph of a group $G$ with respect to a generating set $S$.
Two elements $g, h \in G$ are adjacent iff $g \neq h$ and
$g^{-1} h \in S$ or $h^{-1} g \in S$.

This is constructed using `SimpleGraph.fromRel`, which takes the relation
$g \sim h \iff g^{-1} h \in S$ and automatically symmetrizes it (via disjunction with the
reverse relation) and enforces irreflexivity (via $g \neq h$). In particular, this definition
effectively uses the symmetrization $S \cup S^{-1}$, so it produces a standard undirected
Cayley graph even when $S$ is not itself symmetric. -/
def cayleyGraph {G : Type*} [Group G] (S : Set G) : SimpleGraph G :=
  SimpleGraph.fromRel (fun g h => g⁻¹ * h ∈ S)

/-- The diameter of a finite group $G$, defined as the maximum diameter of the Cayley graphs
$\Gamma(G, A)$ over all generating sets $A$ of $G$.
-/
noncomputable def groupDiam (G : Type*) [Group G] [Fintype G] : ℕ :=
  sSup { d : ℕ | ∃ S : Set G, Subgroup.closure S = ⊤ ∧ (cayleyGraph S).diam = d }

/-- For the trivial group (with one element), the group diameter is zero, since
every Cayley graph has only one vertex and hence diameter zero. -/
@[category test, AMS 20]
theorem groupDiam_fin_one : groupDiam (alternatingGroup (Fin 0)) = 0 := by
  unfold groupDiam
  apply Nat.le_zero.mp
  apply csSup_le
  · exact ⟨0, Set.univ, Subgroup.closure_univ,
      SimpleGraph.diam_eq_zero.mpr (Or.inr inferInstance)⟩
  · rintro d ⟨S, _, hd⟩
    exact Nat.le_zero.mpr (hd ▸ SimpleGraph.diam_eq_zero.mpr (Or.inr inferInstance))

/-- The alternating group $A_3 \cong \mathbb{Z}/3\mathbb{Z}$ has group diameter $1$: every
non-trivial generating set produces a complete Cayley graph $K_3$, since any single non-identity
element and its inverse already reach the entire group. -/
@[category test, AMS 20]
theorem groupDiam_alternating_three : groupDiam (alternatingGroup (Fin 3)) = 1 := by
  have hnt : Nontrivial ↥(alternatingGroup (Fin 3)) :=
    Fintype.one_lt_card_iff_nontrivial.mp (by decide)
  -- Key: for any generating set S of A₃, cayleyGraph S is the complete graph
  have key : ∀ S : Set ↥(alternatingGroup (Fin 3)),
      Subgroup.closure S = ⊤ → cayleyGraph S = ⊤ := by
    intro S hS
    rw [SimpleGraph.eq_top_iff_forall_ne_adj]
    intro u v hne
    simp only [cayleyGraph, SimpleGraph.fromRel_adj]
    refine ⟨hne, ?_⟩
    -- S must contain a non-identity element
    obtain ⟨y, hy, hy1⟩ : ∃ y ∈ S, y ≠ 1 := by
      by_contra! h
      have : Subgroup.closure S ≤ ⊥ :=
        (Subgroup.closure_le _).mpr fun x hx => Subgroup.mem_bot.mpr (h x hx)
      exact absurd (le_antisymm this bot_le |>.symm ▸ hS) bot_ne_top
    -- In A₃ (order 3), any two non-identity elements are equal or inverses
    have h3 : ∀ x y : ↥(alternatingGroup (Fin 3)), x ≠ 1 → y ≠ 1 → x = y ∨ x = y⁻¹ := by
      decide
    have hg1 : u⁻¹ * v ≠ 1 := by rwa [ne_eq, inv_mul_eq_one]
    rcases h3 (u⁻¹ * v) y hg1 hy1 with rfl | h
    · exact Or.inl hy
    · exact Or.inr (by rwa [show v⁻¹ * u = (u⁻¹ * v)⁻¹ from by group, h, inv_inv])
  -- The set of diameters equals {1}, so sSup = 1
  unfold groupDiam
  have h_eq : { d | ∃ S : Set ↥(alternatingGroup (Fin 3)),
      Subgroup.closure S = ⊤ ∧ (cayleyGraph S).diam = d } = {1} := by
    ext d; simp only [Set.mem_ofPred_eq, Set.mem_singleton_iff]; constructor
    · rintro ⟨S, hS, rfl⟩; rw [key S hS, SimpleGraph.diam_top]
    · rintro rfl
      exact ⟨Set.univ, Subgroup.closure_univ, by rw [key _ Subgroup.closure_univ,
        SimpleGraph.diam_top]⟩
  rw [h_eq, csSup_singleton]

/-- The symmetric group $S_2 \cong \mathbb{Z}/2\mathbb{Z}$ has group diameter $1$: the unique
generating set $\{(01)\}$ produces the complete graph $K_2$, since the single non-identity
element and its inverse (which are equal) cover the only other vertex. -/
@[category test, AMS 20]
theorem groupDiam_perm_two : groupDiam (Equiv.Perm (Fin 2)) = 1 := by
  have hnt : Nontrivial (Equiv.Perm (Fin 2)) :=
    Fintype.one_lt_card_iff_nontrivial.mp (by decide)
  have key : ∀ S : Set (Equiv.Perm (Fin 2)),
      Subgroup.closure S = ⊤ → cayleyGraph S = ⊤ := by
    intro S hS
    rw [SimpleGraph.eq_top_iff_forall_ne_adj]
    intro u v hne
    simp only [cayleyGraph, SimpleGraph.fromRel_adj]
    refine ⟨hne, ?_⟩
    obtain ⟨y, hy, hy1⟩ : ∃ y ∈ S, y ≠ 1 := by
      by_contra! h
      have : Subgroup.closure S ≤ ⊥ :=
        (Subgroup.closure_le _).mpr fun x hx => Subgroup.mem_bot.mpr (h x hx)
      exact absurd (le_antisymm this bot_le |>.symm ▸ hS) bot_ne_top
    have h2 : ∀ x y : Equiv.Perm (Fin 2), x ≠ 1 → y ≠ 1 → x = y ∨ x = y⁻¹ := by decide
    have hg1 : u⁻¹ * v ≠ 1 := by rwa [ne_eq, inv_mul_eq_one]
    rcases h2 (u⁻¹ * v) y hg1 hy1 with rfl | h
    · exact Or.inl hy
    · exact Or.inr (by rwa [show v⁻¹ * u = (u⁻¹ * v)⁻¹ from by group, h, inv_inv])
  unfold groupDiam
  have h_eq : { d | ∃ S : Set (Equiv.Perm (Fin 2)),
      Subgroup.closure S = ⊤ ∧ (cayleyGraph S).diam = d } = {1} := by
    ext d; simp only [Set.mem_ofPred_eq, Set.mem_singleton_iff]; constructor
    · rintro ⟨S, hS, rfl⟩; rw [key S hS, SimpleGraph.diam_top]
    · rintro rfl
      exact ⟨Set.univ, Subgroup.closure_univ, by rw [key _ Subgroup.closure_univ,
        SimpleGraph.diam_top]⟩
  rw [h_eq, csSup_singleton]

/-- **Babai–Seress Conjecture (Conjecture 1.5)**: There exists an absolute constant $C$ such
that the diameter of the alternating group $A_n$ satisfies
$$\operatorname{diam}(A_n) \leq n^C.$$

*Reference:* [L. Babai and Á. Seress, *On the diameter of permutation groups*,
European Journal of Combinatorics 13 (1992), Conjecture 1.5](https://doi.org/10.1016/S0195-6698(05)80029-0) -/
@[category research open, AMS 5 20 68]
theorem babai_seress_conjecture_alternating :
    ∃ C : ℕ, ∀ n : ℕ,
    (groupDiam (alternatingGroup (Fin n)) : ℝ) ≤ (n : ℝ) ^ C := by
  sorry

/-- **Babai–Seress Conjecture (Conjecture 1.7)**: There exists an absolute constant $C$ such
that every finite simple non-abelian group $G$ satisfies
$$\operatorname{diam}(G) \leq (\log |G|)^C.$$

*Reference:* [L. Babai and Á. Seress, *On the diameter of permutation groups*,
European Journal of Combinatorics 13 (1992), Conjecture 1.7](https://doi.org/10.1016/S0195-6698(05)80029-0) -/
@[category research open, AMS 5 20 68]
theorem babai_seress_conjecture :
    ∃ C : ℕ,
    ∀ (G : Type) [Group G] [Fintype G] [IsSimpleGroup G],
    (∃ a b : G, a * b ≠ b * a) →
    (groupDiam G : ℝ) ≤ (Real.log (Fintype.card G : ℝ)) ^ C := by
  sorry

end BabaiSeressConjectures

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