Asymptotic essential-dimension ratio of the symmetric groups ()
Asymptotic essential-dimension ratio of the symmetric groups: determine or improve its bounds; the repository records (lower) and 1 (upper).
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Problem statement
For each integer , let be the symmetric group on letters. Over a base field , the essential dimension is the smallest integer such that the general degree- polynomial
can be reduced to a -parameter form by a Tschirnhaus transformation. [ER2024-def]
Buhler and Reichstein proved that this polynomial-theoretic parameter count is exactly , so the asymptotic problem for is equivalent to the asymptotic Tschirnhaus-simplification problem for the general polynomial. [BR1997-cor42-dk-edSn]
We define
Thus this entry's asymptotic constant is specifically the characteristic- quantity over .
The best established range is
[ER2024-intro-bounds-open] [BR1997-sym-bounds]
It is widely believed that for every , which would imply . [ER2024-intro-bounds-open]
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Background
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Exact values through degree . Over , one has , , and . The exact value is open for every . [BR1997-sym-bounds] [Duncan2010-exact7] [ER2024-intro-bounds-open]
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Connection with Hilbert’s th problem. The sequence measures the complexity of simplifying the general degree- polynomial by Tschirnhaus transformations; already the case is tied to algebraic variants of Hilbert’s th problem. [BR1997-cor42-dk-edSn] [Duncan2010-h13]
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Characteristic bookkeeping. The bounds split by characteristic as follows: is valid over arbitrary fields; is proved in characteristic and extends to ; the stronger is currently quoted in characteristic ; and in prime characteristic (), for every prime there are infinitely many with . Here means both characteristic and odd prime characteristics. [ER2024-intro-bounds-open] [BR1997-sym-bounds] [ER2024-poschar]
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Recent synthesis of the status. A 2023 summary of known bounds on essential dimension and resolvent degree over reiterates that for symmetric groups, the exact value of is open for every , and that the expected value is for . [Sutherland2023-status]
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Related invariant in positive characteristic. A 2026 follow-up by Edens and Reichstein shows that the sextic, 13th-problem, and octic resolvent-degree conjectural equalities can fail over fields of positive characteristic, highlighting parallel characteristic-sensitivity for complexity invariants attached to general polynomials. [ER2026-h13-poschar]
References (from the repository page)
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[BR1997] Buhler, Joe; Reichstein, Zinovy. On the essential dimension of a finite group. Compositio Mathematica 106 (1997), no. 2, 159–179. DOI: 10.1023/A:1000144403695. Author-hosted PDF: edtotal.pdf. Google Scholar
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[BR1997-cor42-dk-edSn] loc: Author-hosted PDF p.11, §4, file
edtotal.pdfquote: “COROLLARY 4.2. Let be a transitive subgroup of , let be independent variables over and let be the fixed field for the natural (permutation) action of on . Then . In particular, the number , defined in the introduction, is equal to .” -
[BR1997-sym-bounds] loc: Author-hosted PDF p.17, §6.3 “Symmetric Groups”, file
edtotal.pdfquote: “THEOREM 6.5. Let be an arbitrary field of characteristic . Then (a) for any . (b) for any . (c) for any . (d) , .” -
[Duncan2010] Duncan, Alexander. Essential dimensions of and . Mathematical Research Letters 17 (2010), no. 2, 263–266. arXiv PDF: 0908.3220. DOI: 10.4310/MRL.2010.v17.n2.a5. Google Scholar
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[Duncan2010-exact7] loc: arXiv v1 PDF p.1, Introduction, file
0908.3220.pdfquote: “The purpose of this note is to show that the essential dimension of the alternating group and the symmetric group can be computed using the recent work of Prokhorov [12] on the classification of rationally connected threefolds with faithful actions of non-abelian simple groups. Our main result is the following: Theorem 1. .” -
[Duncan2010-h13] loc: arXiv v1 PDF p.2, Introduction, file
0908.3220.pdfquote: “The values of are of special interest because they relate to classical questions of simplifying degree polynomials via Tschirnhaus transformations. In particular, the degree case features prominently in algebraic variants of Hilbert’s 13th problem.” -
[ER2024] Edens, Oakley; Reichstein, Zinovy. Essential dimension of symmetric groups in prime characteristic. Comptes Rendus. Mathématique 362 (2024), 639–647. arXiv PDF: 2308.10096. DOI: 10.5802/crmath.577. Google Scholar
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[ER2024-def] loc: Numdam PDF p.2, Abstract, file
10.5802/crmath.577.pdfquote: “The essential dimension of the symmetric group is the minimal integer such that the general polynomial can be reduced to a -parameter form by a Tschirnhaus transformation.” -
[ER2024-intro-bounds-open] loc: Numdam PDF p.3, §1 “Introduction”, file
10.5802/crmath.577.pdfquote: “Finding is a long-standing open problem, which goes back to F. Klein [8]; cf. also N. Chebotarev [14]. Essential dimension of a finite group was formally defined by J. Buhler and the second author in [5], where the inequalities and were proved. The field was assumed to be of characteristic in [5], but the proof of the first inequality in (1) given there goes through for any field of characteristic different from . The second inequality is valid over an arbitrary field . A. Duncan [6] subsequently showed that in characteristic , for any . The exact value of is open for each and any field , though it is widely believed that should be for every , at least in characteristic .” -
[ER2024-poschar] loc: Numdam PDF p.2, Abstract, file
10.5802/crmath.577.pdfquote: “In this paper we show that for every prime there are infinitely many positive integers such that .” -
[Sutherland2023] Sutherland, Alexander J. A Summary of Known Bounds on the Essential Dimension and Resolvent Degree of Finite Groups. Preprint (2023), arXiv:2312.04430. arXiv PDF: 2312.04430. DOI: 10.48550/arXiv.2312.04430. Google Scholar
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[Sutherland2023-status] loc: arXiv v1 PDF p.3, §3 “Lower Bounds on ed(G)”, Case 2, file
2312.04430.pdfquote: “the exact value of is open for every , though it is widely believed that should be for every .” -
[ER2026] Edens, Oakley; Reichstein, Zinovy B. Hilbert’s 13th problem in prime characteristic. Documenta Mathematica 31 (2026), no. 2, 385–399. arXiv PDF: 2406.15954. DOI: 10.4171/DM/984. Google Scholar
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[ER2026-h13-poschar] loc: Doc. Math. PDF p.1, Abstract, file
dm984.pdfquote: “In this paper, we show that all three of Hilbert’s conjectures can fail if we replace with a base field of positive characteristic.”
Progress & source assessment
Repository table (commit 2c1968c, 26 September 2026): best known lower bound ; best known upper bound 1. Values marked with an asterisk have minimal verification.
Known upper bounds
| Bound | Reference | Comments |
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| [BR1997] | Follows from for all , hence . [BR1997-sym-bounds] |
Known lower bounds
| Bound | Reference | Comments |
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| [BR1997], [ER2024] | In characteristic , Buhler–Reichstein proved , and Duncan improved this to for ; ER2024 notes the argument also works for . In particular, over either estimate yields . [ER2024-intro-bounds-open] [BR1997-sym-bounds] |
- [1]Davis, Damek; Ivanisvili, Paata; Tao, Terence (maintainers). Optimization Constants in Mathematics, github.com/teorth/optimizationproblems (commit 2c1968c, 26 September 2026). — Asymptotic essential-dimension ratio of the symmetric groups ($C_{79}$) linkApache-2.0 (repository license); constant pages reproduced with attribution; repository references retained.
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